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	<title>Comments on: Mobile Phone Signal Bars &#8211; Thoughts</title>
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		<title>By: Hank Hudgins</title>
		<link>http://www.brianklug.org/2010/01/mobile-phone-signal-bars-thoughts/comment-page-1/#comment-254</link>
		<dc:creator>Hank Hudgins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Oct 2010 19:32:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Could you expand on your comments on Nokia? Nokia tech support responded to me with &quot;those are &#039;hidden codes&#039; and we cannot disclose them&quot;. The usual online sources (of questionable reliability) suggest for some Nokia  GSM phones  *3001#12345#. But this the same as you suggest for the iOS 3.x.  

I had been hoping to determine which GSM phones allowed access before buying one. Thus, I do not own any such phones yet and cannot try the few suggestions I have found.  

To go back to the 0-7 bars on Nokia phones foe RSSI, do you know where the breakpoints between bars are in dBm?  I worked out experimentally for a CDMA LG phone that I could reach field test mode on, that for its 0-6 display: No Service  -80.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Could you expand on your comments on Nokia? Nokia tech support responded to me with &#8220;those are &#8216;hidden codes&#8217; and we cannot disclose them&#8221;. The usual online sources (of questionable reliability) suggest for some Nokia  GSM phones  *3001#12345#. But this the same as you suggest for the iOS 3.x.  </p>
<p>I had been hoping to determine which GSM phones allowed access before buying one. Thus, I do not own any such phones yet and cannot try the few suggestions I have found.  </p>
<p>To go back to the 0-7 bars on Nokia phones foe RSSI, do you know where the breakpoints between bars are in dBm?  I worked out experimentally for a CDMA LG phone that I could reach field test mode on, that for its 0-6 display: No Service  -80.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian</title>
		<link>http://www.brianklug.org/2010/01/mobile-phone-signal-bars-thoughts/comment-page-1/#comment-253</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Sep 2010 02:08:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting, and an awesome pursuit actually to be measuring which carrier provides best performance for your locale. I certainly wish there was more reporting - I did this myself a while ago with CDMA carriers by putting the PRLs of different carriers on an HTC Apache (PPC6700) and running field test.

So for field test, I really like Windows Mobile. It&#039;s old and decrepit, sure, but there&#039;s an official sanctioned application that exposes more than you&#039;re going to get with almost any of the other solutions. After that would be Android, which does an awesome job and has tons of third party applications that allow you to monitor signal like Real Signal or even in settings -&gt; about, or widgets. Next in line are manufacturers like Nokia which have field tests exposed with dialer codes. I always search &quot;[phone] dialer code&quot; and get back a ton of stuff. 

I&#039;d actually put iOS in last place when it comes to field testing and signal reporting. In iOS 3.x, you could get to it with the *3001#12345#* menu very easily, but that was removed in iOS 4.0 and later replaced with a gimped version that only shows numerical signal strength (tapping on bars method), none of the other info. There are very few options outside jailbreaking and using a Cydia app called &quot;signal&quot; to show strength.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting, and an awesome pursuit actually to be measuring which carrier provides best performance for your locale. I certainly wish there was more reporting &#8211; I did this myself a while ago with CDMA carriers by putting the PRLs of different carriers on an HTC Apache (PPC6700) and running field test.</p>
<p>So for field test, I really like Windows Mobile. It&#8217;s old and decrepit, sure, but there&#8217;s an official sanctioned application that exposes more than you&#8217;re going to get with almost any of the other solutions. After that would be Android, which does an awesome job and has tons of third party applications that allow you to monitor signal like Real Signal or even in settings -&gt; about, or widgets. Next in line are manufacturers like Nokia which have field tests exposed with dialer codes. I always search &#8220;[phone] dialer code&#8221; and get back a ton of stuff. </p>
<p>I&#8217;d actually put iOS in last place when it comes to field testing and signal reporting. In iOS 3.x, you could get to it with the *3001#12345#* menu very easily, but that was removed in iOS 4.0 and later replaced with a gimped version that only shows numerical signal strength (tapping on bars method), none of the other info. There are very few options outside jailbreaking and using a Cydia app called &#8220;signal&#8221; to show strength.</p>
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		<title>By: Hank Hudgins</title>
		<link>http://www.brianklug.org/2010/01/mobile-phone-signal-bars-thoughts/comment-page-1/#comment-252</link>
		<dc:creator>Hank Hudgins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Sep 2010 01:19:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I began with iDen, went on to CDMA, and now need to deal with GSM. Your discussion of Nokia&#039;s approach to displaying signal strength/quality gives me some hope of quantitative validity for signal surveys even if I must use a graphical display. I have been trying to find which GSM phones will allow me to access &quot;field test mode&quot; (as I could do with iDEN and CDMA). It seems most GSM phone manufacturers and/or service providers either never allowed such access or neutered it. Only the iPhones seem to have it. That is too many dollars when I all I want to do is valid signal strength surveys in the area of interest to my community. I volunteered/ was tasked  by our governing board to see just how good or bad all the available carriers are around us.

If you know of any sources of info on field test mode on GSM phones (including how to read the displays), I would greatly appreciate learning how to get to them; Nokia 2720, especially.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I began with iDen, went on to CDMA, and now need to deal with GSM. Your discussion of Nokia&#8217;s approach to displaying signal strength/quality gives me some hope of quantitative validity for signal surveys even if I must use a graphical display. I have been trying to find which GSM phones will allow me to access &#8220;field test mode&#8221; (as I could do with iDEN and CDMA). It seems most GSM phone manufacturers and/or service providers either never allowed such access or neutered it. Only the iPhones seem to have it. That is too many dollars when I all I want to do is valid signal strength surveys in the area of interest to my community. I volunteered/ was tasked  by our governing board to see just how good or bad all the available carriers are around us.</p>
<p>If you know of any sources of info on field test mode on GSM phones (including how to read the displays), I would greatly appreciate learning how to get to them; Nokia 2720, especially.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian</title>
		<link>http://www.brianklug.org/2010/01/mobile-phone-signal-bars-thoughts/comment-page-1/#comment-20</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jan 2010 05:50:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Transparency, the ability for subscribers to sort out what the problem is themselves. The FCC is mandating a uniform set of reporting rules anyways for street-level maps. This is just an extension.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Transparency, the ability for subscribers to sort out what the problem is themselves. The FCC is mandating a uniform set of reporting rules anyways for street-level maps. This is just an extension.</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin Klug</title>
		<link>http://www.brianklug.org/2010/01/mobile-phone-signal-bars-thoughts/comment-page-1/#comment-19</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin Klug</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jan 2010 21:33:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What do carriers have to gain by publishing the true signal quality?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What do carriers have to gain by publishing the true signal quality?</p>
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